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DGhost
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posted 02-02-2002 12:35 PM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Okay gang, I'm not gonna post that yet on the website but be prepared to see some major change on q3arena.com soon. But I've got a couple of questions that I'm wondering and I would like to know what you think of that first.

1- You are on the forum of q3arena.com but do you ever read the news also on the main page?

2- With Doom 3 coming, do you think that Quake 3 (or any Quake) is dying?

3- Are you interrested in Quake 3 mod related news? What kinf of news do you wanna know and wich one you don't f***ing care?

4- On a more personnal note, what do you think about planetquake? Their the biggest in town for any Quake related news and their tough to match since they've got people working for them full time who get a salary for that. Q3arena.com is more of a volunteer job. (if you want to know my humble opinion, I like planetquake, but they've got so many ads that get on my nerve.. )

I'm asking this since, like I said, some major changes are coming. Basically I want to make that site more popular than it is right now (I've been here since the beggining of quake2.com :P ) and Doom3 is coming and we will cover it for sure. I alreader spoken with the bosses of this site and they are willing so far to let me run a couple of ideas that I've got. I'm just wondering where the readers stand in this (i.e. if you care or not).
Thank you!

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posted 02-02-2002 12:59 PM     Profile for Wowbagger   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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1- You are on the forum of q3arena.com but do you ever read the news also on the main page?

I basically read everything that's new on the page. I do not look at the POTD however.


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2- With Doom 3 coming, do you think that Quake 3 (or any Quake) is dying?

It all depends on its multiplayer abilities. For example, even if R2CW is really great, with a lot of multiplayer and such, it haven't meant the end of Q3.

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3- Are you interrested in Quake 3 mod related news? What kinf of news do you wanna know and wich one you don't f***ing care?

I love to know there are new Mac-compatible mods (as I am a Mac user). I enjoy reading about what's up lately. Latest mods, good or bad. As for the update to the (hardly ever) much anticipated "Eyeballs Mod" v1.04 that doesn't crash your machine as much as the 1.03 and that uses less than 98% of your CPU, well, I don't especially care. ;-)

No, what I care personally are the latest mod news for highly-used mods (like GTKRadiant) and maps, as well as to know there are new mods out there that (might) interest me.

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4- On a more personnal note, what do you think about planetquake? Their the biggest in town for any Quake related news and their tough to match since they've got people working for them full time who get a salary for that. Q3arena.com is more of a volunteer job. (if you want to know my humble opinion, I like planetquake, but they've got so many ads that get on my nerve.. )

I love PlanetQuake for one precise thing: the Plans. However, since I have a finger software on my comp, well, I've put the two people I care about in my fingering list and I check them everyday (John and Graeme).

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Thank you!

You're welcome

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posted 02-02-2002 01:09 PM     Profile for Wowbagger   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Uh... Yeah, while I'm at it...

Although I don't really mind you host sites, I would definitely like that the hosted sites to be kept alive somehow.

I don't even look at them anymore, the first two I saw weren't updated since 1998. Even in my sites, I try to at least update once a year ... So yes, they make the site look bigger, but they tend to cripple mods that try to actually make a living in the site (if there are any that are still active).

Have a nice day
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posted 02-02-2002 05:21 PM     Profile for TheKiller   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
1-I read all the new stuff on the front page.

2-I play quake 3 still, RtCW still has most of my attention though, perhaps having some news on ALL Quake 3 engine games would bring in the viewers!

3-Yup, I like quake 3 mods. News good!

4-Planetquake and gamespy have much too much advertising. If I can find the same info on another site, I will.

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posted 02-02-2002 10:39 PM     Profile for Redlemons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
1- You are on the forum of q3arena.com but do you ever read the news also on the main page? "Q3Arena.com Forums" is linked directly to here in my Links bar. Honestly, I never pass by the main site, simply because PlanetQuake usually has that news and more by the time I come to the forums. It's also just a matter of habit - open up 5 windows and go to CNN, Polycount, PlanetQuake, Q3Arena.com Forums and Polycount forums. I don't really bother much with Quake3 news, as I don't play any mods.

2- With Doom 3 coming, do you think that Quake 3 (or any Quake) is dying?
Yep. I think Q3 has been dying for a while as it didn't have the substance that Quake and Q2 had (single player, etc.) Also, the split between HPBs and LPBs is even greater now than it was 'back in the day' when everyone had 200-400 ping and it's too frustrating.

3- Are you interrested in Quake 3 mod related news? What kinf of news do you wanna know and wich one you don't f***ing care? I don't play any mods (hardly even Q3) anymore, but I like the community. If news is around on a cool-looking mod I'll have a look at the map, character and weapon renders but that's about as far as I'll go.

4- On a more personnal note, what do you think about planetquake? It's good for news and sometimes an interesting article or POTD, but that's about it. Their hosted sites are the greatest. However, I think PQ has gone downhill over the past year or so, Dear Mynx has gone, the Mailbag is utter crap, the humor they try to inject into PQ just seems lame. Maybe I'm just getting old and want something new with games, but all I ever see is the same old thing. A Counter-Strike/Urban Terror clone mod with beautifully rendered (unskinned) weapons that will never make it into the game and the mod will never be finished. But I digress PlanetQuake is a good resource and central to the community, but I don't know if I really like it.

/me goes away feeling all bitter...


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posted 02-02-2002 11:09 PM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I must agree also for the Dear Minx columns on planetquake... I used to laugh so much over this... It was one of my preffered columns..

Don't fear to post guys, I'm curious to know what you think about all this.. :P

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posted 02-02-2002 11:12 PM     Profile for Wowbagger   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I do not agree about the news in Q3Arena. Call me a suck-up or something but although PQ has many great news, they're all centered on their hosted sites. That's basically why I stopped reading the news from PQ. For this, Q3Arena is much less self-centered.
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posted 02-04-2002 02:00 PM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thank you for your comments, I appreacite it.. If anybody got something else to say about the webpage, feel free to post your comments.. as long as that they are good post..

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posted 02-04-2002 05:44 PM     Profile for Wowbagger   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well, while we are on the subject.

I find it unclear that the e-mail/password on the main page are for Mail addresses while the forums have another mail/password.

When you know it and understands it, it's fine. However, it took me the second registration in order to understand it.

As a backfire, I am now the proud owner of another E-mail address, not that I needed it but the address is cool anyways so I intend to keep it.


Have a nice day
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posted 02-04-2002 11:49 PM     Profile for dAm   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
1. I have the forums bookmarked. I don't even know what the main page looks like.

2. I don't see Q3 dying anytime soon. At least not with me and the crowd I play with. And it's a big crowd and we play a lot.

3. I play 2 mods. JB/POW and Threewave. I keep up with the news surrounding those two already. Don't care about any others.


4. Planetquake? Where's that?

I basically check in here everyday because there's good people here and I've made a few good friends since I started coming here.
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posted 02-05-2002 01:09 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've seen him on quake3world.com, but that was quite some time ago too. Wonder what he's upto these days.
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posted 02-05-2002 01:13 AM     Profile for Redlemons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Quake3World? *shudder*

I hate that place with a passion. All the spamming and absolute crap that goes on there, it's beyond belief.


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posted 02-05-2002 03:53 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That's true, although I've found my corner in the T&T forum. Not that much spam going on.

...and I absolutely love the customizing that Turbanator and Saturn have done to the place. Adds to the feel and functionality of the board.


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posted 02-05-2002 08:19 AM     Profile for 20 20   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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posted 02-05-2002 08:34 AM     Profile for Cyborg6   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I do not go to any quake related sites frontpage anymore though I do hangout in the forums. I, like many others visit when something new comes out and will do so soon.

It must kinda suck having people not read the new stuff on the front page and link to the forums. I appoligize for this but I am very busy these days with my baby.

I do not like Planetquake. They have gotten too corporate but I understand how revenue is needed at some point.

Hello DGhost!

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posted 02-05-2002 08:58 AM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What I don't get with quake3world.com is why are they copying the news from planetquake.com? It's the same thing on both site, only the background and menu are different... Or maybe planetquake.com is copying from quake3world.com but that would surprise me.. :P

Thx for your comments gang!

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posted 02-05-2002 09:25 AM     Profile for Cyborg6   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It's the follower metalitiy G. If Coke is making a different colored can and product sales is up, Pepsi will do the same.

Check out a non-corporate site like www.burial-grounds.com and see what they are doing right.


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posted 02-05-2002 09:53 AM     Profile for Redlemons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think Quake3World, PlanetQuake and Gamespy.com all have the same news source. That is, when news gets posted at one place, it's posted everywhere. I think they're in cahoots.
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posted 02-05-2002 10:05 AM     Profile for Rivendell   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good luck! I'd love to see this place revived!

Sadly I too have the forums bookmarked and seldom go by the mainsite, though...(that may also be because I haven't actually played Q3 in over a year...)


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posted 02-05-2002 11:04 AM     Profile for xanthan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think PQ and Burialgrounds suck so I wouldnt model myself after them. The main thing is to try and keep the page updated and add features that people will like, colums or whatever.

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posted 02-05-2002 11:22 AM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ok, I am not trying to be a prick, and I for one appreciate your efforts to re-vitalize this place DGhost...but with you saying you been here since the beginning, yet with a member # of 2704 with a whopping 42 posts, that don't help your case so either wtf are you really or why have you been lurking for so long?

You aren't GFK under a differnt name or somethin' are ya? I just...ya know...inquiring minds want to know.

And again, not being a prick...just trying to shed some light on this all...

Have a nice day

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posted 02-05-2002 12:13 PM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
When I said that I've been there since quake2.com I meant that I read the news but actually I never went on this forum since last week... :P Normally I'm not a big fan of forum. The time I have for browsing is limited. Now it's my lucky week since my boss is on vacation and I'm taking it easy at the job.. Add with that my girlfriend, video games and trying to go out with my friends once in a while is tough...

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posted 02-05-2002 12:27 PM     Profile for Snag   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ah ok....i got ya now was just curious if we were supposed to know you as another name or something....good to see ya, and welcome outta the shadows man hehe
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posted 02-06-2002 01:24 AM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmm, I guess I should put in my two cents worth too.

I'm just going to respond to your questions as a whole, DGhost.

When I first started coming here, I used to skim the news, mostly cause I wanted to know what the latest point release was. Other than that I really wasn't interested in anything else, that hasn't really changed much. I still have the main page bookmarked, but I haven't read anything there in months now, to tell the truth, I haven't visited the site in quite some time. I don't really think that Quake in general is dying, as far as I know, Quake, and Q2 still have a strong following. I think though, that the idea of a site completely dedicated to the Quake genre (or any other game for that matter), has lost it's novelty. There are exceptions, Planetquake is great, not just because of it's dedication, but because it diversifies and changes as it needs to, when Doom3 comes out, it'll still be Planetquake, just with q1, q2, q3, D3. The Mod of the week section has got to be my favorite. I don't usually play mods (save for ThreewaveCTF and OSP) but I like being able to check the different ones out. Of course, since I had to go back to Dial-up, I haven't played much of anything.

Bottom line: Diversify, don't just stick to one game or even one genre, try and branch out a little more. And don't use quake3world as a model for anything. They've only survived cause what's his nut(one of the Id guys) posts there. That place is just NOT appealing to me.

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posted 02-06-2002 09:21 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Redlemons:
I think Quake3World, PlanetQuake and Gamespy.com all have the same news source. That is, when news gets posted at one place, it's posted everywhere. I think they're in cahoots.

One werd: Gamespy-freaking-industries. Dontcha guys think that these sites would be suing themselves silly if they were "copying" stuff? Atleast I think they reserve rights to the contents of their respective sites.


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posted 02-06-2002 10:15 AM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I know that I can't cover only one game. q3arena.com is mostly focusing on IDSoftware games and games that use the ID engines. But now I'm almost alone to covers all this. Mayhemm is gone, he's back to school and I'm suppose to have someone who started last monday to help me out but he told me that his cousin was sent to the hospital and he's gonna be with him all week long. So I'm alone to run the news. My best game is still Quake 3. But with my life it's really tough t have the time to play. I'm at the last level at MoH and I didn't have the time yet to finished it. And I don't wanna talk about RtCW, I didn't even make half of the maps... :P I work as a nework admin and my job take a lot of time, add with that, that I psot news about Quake 3, sometimes I've got to post news about mods that I don't care. And I've got to find some times to give to my girlfriend and my friends, it's pretty tough.

I'm trying to post quality news bout the world of Quake 3 so that I don't bore people to death with some planetishquake news about a guys who released one textures in beta forms to use only during a night of full moon to use on some weapons that no one care about :P

When Doom 3 will be released, q3arena.com will follow.. for your information the founder of the page already bought the domain name d00m.com The name will change (like from quake2.com to q3arena.com) but we will still cover news about IDsoftware games. And after Doom 3 it's gonna be Quake 4.

For the moments, the co founder told me that they were only trying to survive until Doom 3. In average now, we get about 2500 hits par day on the webpage. That's pretty low compare to the 60 000 hits per day this site used to get. I want to make it better because I love Quake, I love IDsoftware. I do it for the readers, but first of all I do it for myself.

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posted 02-07-2002 12:16 PM     Profile for Mich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
A little late but here are my answers to your questions.

1.- Yes, I always read the news.

2.- Again yes, I think Quake3 is dying. I don't have stoped to think why but it is not like used to be when Quake2, I agree with Red in that.

3.- I am not playing Q3 at the moment (RTCW) and I don't have it installed on my system so I am not very interested in new mods or so, but I like to read about news from ID, new FPS shooters using Q3 engine, flashback news like your expierence with Alpha version...

4.- I like PQ, but I think there is too many information that many times I don't need. I like it because you can find everything there, the hosted sites are great and I like very much the pic of the day (but only when the pics are kind of personal like "where you rock" theme).

Anyway I spend more time in this site than in PQ, perhaps it is because I find this site more close to me, more familiar... I don't know but I like all the gang here.

Hope I have help you and I like what you are trying to do.


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posted 02-07-2002 12:37 PM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Maybe you could also give me some of your feedback about the pic of the day on the thread that I've setup ...

Pic of the day thread

Or you could send me your desktop!

desktop as pic of the day?

Thx for your comments, I appreciate it!

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posted 02-08-2002 02:11 AM     Profile for falsefriend   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I never did read anything on the front page here. I always just used the message board.

Although this is my first message in more than a year.

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posted 02-08-2002 02:48 AM     Profile for Lindi   Author's Homepage     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Dghost sounds like a handfull. I'm in the middle of moving right now, but since you are doing such a great job, all alone at that no less, I think I could try to help you out.

Now my spelling sucks like hell and I have never, ever even tried my hands at a thing like this. So don't expect too much.

Anyway, you can reach me by mail or ICQ if you are interrested. Probably will have my computer setup by Sunday.


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Hi falsefriend, I remember you
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posted 02-08-2002 12:06 PM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Actually it doesn't surprise me that people come directly here without reading the mainpage. But my purpose is to make to page more popular as it was before... FYI Just for the stats this week (and the week finish tomorrow at midnight) I already had more readers than last week (about 2000 hits more) It's not so much but it's better than a kick in the ass... :P

Okay I'm gonna go try sparth by Nunuk..

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posted 02-09-2002 08:53 AM     Profile for Redlemons   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This is why I hate Quake3World.com. Sure, it's in the Rants and Raves forum, but nothing really distinguishes the forums from each other. Look at the depressing shit that goes on there - the responses, not the first poster's problem.
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posted 02-09-2002 10:24 AM     Profile for DGhost   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I just read the thread.. well.. I hope that the guy learned his lessons... :P

But also pretty stupid for a post... Maybe the average age of the posters culd explains a lot of things....

Techno music!!!!!!

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