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Wintermute
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posted 10-12-2004 02:32 PM     Profile for Wintermute   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Whoa.... that sure was a whole lot of nothing. You basically agree with my simply stated position about oil being a primary goal, and so I guess I don't really need to worry about the rest of the post where you go out of your way in a verbose manner to put your ignorance and unfortunate propensity for looking no further than the surface of a matter on display.

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posted 10-12-2004 03:09 PM     Profile for outrider   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
So I guess NeoMute will save us all, eh?
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posted 10-12-2004 03:17 PM     Profile for outrider   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
btw, care to explain how my statements are ignorant? Point them out, I can try and learn. Seriously. Explain please. Show us your depth of the matter on display, but please do it in a way that I can understand.

"lol whatever" didn't splain much the first time around.

Sorry bout the neo comment.


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Wintermute
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posted 10-12-2004 06:17 PM     Profile for Wintermute   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You've established that you agree with me and everyone else who believes that oil is our primary interest in Iraq. Whatever else beyond that you may think I am or am not concerned with is purely conjecture on your part and of little import to me.

As for the Halliburton/Cheney thang, I've posted my opinion, and some of the facts I base my opinion on. You are welcome to disagree, and refute a fact if you are able, or to intelligently explain why you feel your opposing opinion has more merit than mine. We can take it from there. I'll look out for such a post from you if you care to make it.

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posted 10-12-2004 07:01 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
For Mute.


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posted 10-12-2004 09:00 PM     Profile for outrider   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
mute, fair enough. I don't really think my opinion has more merit than yours and I'm sorry for suggesting whatever you are or are not concerned with past initial idea that oil is a primary reason for our interest in the ME. For all I know you ride a bicycle to work. Heck, maybe you never even rely on UPS to deliver computer parts or whatever. You're right I do not know. But I do suspect a large portion of "everyone else" who believes oil is the reason do not actually look at themselves as cause nor consider taking personal steps to prevent. They just blame the evil president.

Again, my apology if you will be so kind to accept.


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posted 10-12-2004 09:06 PM     Profile for Cacophonous   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
1) There are more reasons than oil for the war on Iraq.

2) There is the profit made off rebuilding Iraq and control of who gets the contracts

3) The war itself does many subtle things to benefit the current administration (regardless of if they knew this ahead of time or not) including:

a) Convincing many Americans that invading Iraq and capturing Saddam Hussein would make us safer here at home. Which is actually not true since we still have many security problems right here in the states. Why not spend that money on increased home security? I thought this administration was for that sort of thing? And don’t say we are spending money on increased home security because I know we are and I meant adding another 200 billion or whatever this war is costing us on top of what they already are spending. .

b) Keeping some of us focused on the war and not caring about the multitude of problems here at home like the economy, job market, huge deficit, etc. What about the economy? So Clinton handed over to Bush a real mess right? Is the surplus money that the democrats quote a lie? If so please explain this to me (seriously). Are there more better paying jobs these days or are the democrats lying again? Is government funded stem cell research using an effective method really that important to people that can’t afford to hire the world’s best specialist for their own disease. Being diabetic I find stem cell research more important to me than a war in Iraq. Shit I have a waaaaaay better chance of dying young from type 1 diabetes than from one of Saddam Hussein’s men attacking me. Anyway many people are too hung up on fighting terrorists to worry about the ‘other’ just as important things. That’s right ‘just as important’.

c) Many of us wanting to re-elect the current president even if he is not that great instead of bringing in a new person in the middle of a war. It may be a mistake to change presidents during war. But then again I’m probably the only person on the planet that thought of this so I’m positive that the republican administration has never looked at that as a plus in an election.

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