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posted 03-12-2004 10:01 AM     Profile for god   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello, I am a building a system for my friend, It is a nice system to my thinking, based on the Barton. I have everything selected except for the video card.....

He says he can spend 150 preferably but can go as high as 200 if there will be a huge difference in performance.
Remember I am in Canada. These are the prices from my companies distributor.

GIGABYTE ATI RADEON 9200 128MB, TV-OUT,VIDEO-IN,DVI PORT $116.00

ATI RADEON 9200 128MB DDR AGP8, TV-OUT, RETAIL PACK $127.50

GIGABYTE ATI RADEON 9600,128MB, ,TV-OUT,DVI PORT $133.70

CP ATI RADEON 9600PRO 128MB, DDR, AGP8X, DVI,TV-OUT, RETAIL $197.40 ( should i stay away from power color

ASUS V9520 GFX-5200 HOME-THTRE $189.10

I don't know anything about nvidia cards but from what I have been hearing Radeons are the wya to go

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posted 03-12-2004 10:38 AM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The 9600 Pro is the best bet. The Radeon 9200 is a piece, and the 5200 isn't too much better. The 9600XT comes with a free voucher for HL2 [make sure it's the 'built by ATi']. Good card, but the 9600 Pro is still the best.

btw, look on eBay for the Radeon 9800 series that has Samsung Memory. Those cards can be flashed to be 9800 Pros [they are the exact same card].


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posted 03-12-2004 10:46 AM     Profile for Serengeti   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I would go with a Radeon 9600 card based on his price expectations. A 9600 will run everything out there quite well, and should last for a while.

Personally, I think the PowerCooler brand is quite good. I've owned a couple of them with no issues, so I'm going to recommend the following:

PowerCooler 9600 Pro - $132.00
Or, for a little more performance:

PowerCooler 9600XT - $163.00

One other option to keep in mind, if the case already has decent airflow, you can go with a fanless Sapphire 9600 Pro to reduce noise:

Sapphire fanless 9600 Pro - $168.00


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posted 03-12-2004 11:10 AM     Profile for MadHatter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
9600XT is a nice card. There is a huge difference in performace between the 9600 and the 9600XT

tomshardware has some good reviews and benchmarks.

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posted 03-12-2004 11:36 AM     Profile for god   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I went to Tom's and thats where I get most of my info except most of the information there no is all about the new cards. I was thinking of the 9600xt however I'm not sure he will go for the price jump cause he is on a limited budget....I will see if he will fork out the dough for a 9600 xt but if that doesn't work the general consensus would be to go with a 9600 pro by power color?

Just thought I would give you the prices for the cards still up for negotiations

ATI- i've been told to stay with radeons made by ATI but they are quite a bit more money which I assume is due to their clock speeds, memory quality, etc
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ATI RADEON 9600XT 128MB DDR, AGP8X DVI TV-OUT RETAIL PACK $262.00

ATI RADEON 9600PRO 128MB DDR, AGP, DVI, TV-OUT, RETAIL PACK $256.00

Gigabyte
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GIGABYTE ATI RADEON 9600 PRO, 128MB,TV-OUT,DVI PORT $216.00

GIGABYTE ATI RADEON 9600 XT,, 128MB,TV-OUT,DVI PORT $218.00

GIGABYTE ATI RADEON 9600,128MB, ,TV-OUT,DVI PORT $133.70

Power color
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CP ATI RADN 9600XT ULTRA 128MB, DDR AGP8X, DVI, TV-OUT, RETA $232.00

CP ATI RADEON 9600PRO 128MB, DDR, AGP8X, DVI,TV-OUT, RETAIL $197.40

CP ATI RADEON 9600PRO 256MB, DDR, DVI,TV-OUT, RETAIL $204.00

I have heard that teh 256 cards are slower because they have lower quality memory or something should i stick to a 128 card even though the price is only a few bucks more for the 256?

Asus- thinking this jump in price is out of the question
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ASUS RADEON 9600XT 128MB DDR, AGP8X, DVI, VIVO $264.00

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posted 03-12-2004 12:30 PM     Profile for AcidWarp   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've heard the same thing about 256MB cards as well.

You know, I'm sorta thinking maybe you should just present the facts to the person you're building the machine for and let them decide what they want. You're just building it, let them do the thinking.

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posted 03-13-2004 09:00 AM     Profile for jondster   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
For that price range, Maximum PC magazine (the bible- see "Budget Video Card" ) recommends a card with the nVidia FX5700 Ultra chipset

Link with better price

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posted 03-13-2004 11:53 AM     Profile for outrider   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Most all 9600 Pros can easily be clocked up to an XT or higher. The one I have in my barton rig has been running at 500/350 since the day I took it out of the box.
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posted 03-13-2004 04:16 PM     Profile for MadHatter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
if they dont want to shell out the cash for a XT, the PRO is a good card, and he wont have problems running any of the games coming out in the next year.

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posted 03-14-2004 06:47 AM     Profile for FS   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I will never buy a Radeon until those guys provide decent OpenGL support

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posted 03-14-2004 10:25 AM     Profile for god   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
FS~ what would u recommend? I believe your a programmer so I would like to hear what you recommend?

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posted 03-14-2004 02:25 PM     Profile for FS   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
NVidia.

And I'm only half programmer, I'm still mostly an animator, so OpenGL is essential to me.

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posted 03-14-2004 02:27 PM     Profile for Acid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Except that most games use DX9 now anyways. ATi is the clear winner over nvidia right now, regardless if their openGL drivers aren't what they should be..they're still better than what nvidia is offering.
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